Mainland Chinese tourists fight over queue-jumping in Taiwan; netizens engage in cross-strait rants
February 9, 2011Jing GaoOne Comment5 mao, 50 cents, beating, Chinese New Year, cross-strait, cross-strait relations, decorum, Kuomintang, Ma Ying-jeou, Nationalist Party, republic of china, Taiwan, Taiwanese, tourism, uncivilized, wu mao
During Chinese New Year, large spates of tourists from mainland China went to Alishan, one of the most well-known scenic spots in Taiwan. Allegedly members of one tourist group from the mainland attempted to jump the queue to ride the sightseeing train, which angered another mainland Chinese group. The scrimmage soon turned into a melee, with Taiwanese visitors looking on. The video footage of the fight was first uploaded to YouTube and later featured in Taiwan’s TV news. Taiwanese netizens lashed out at tourists from the mainland, and the crossfire spread to the cyberspace.
Alishan, or Mount Ali, is a mountain resort and natural preserve in Taiwan. Bilateral relations between Taiwan and mainland China have thawed business-wise in recent years since the Nationalists lost the Chinese civil war and fled to the island in 1949, and have reached the warmest point after a number of agreements, including launching direct flights and lifting ban on tourism, were signed to boost ties.
However, the cultural, social and ideological divides remains after over 60 years of separate rule.
In the video, some people are boarding the Alishan Train. One man carrying a blue flag, probably a group leader, is also boarding, when passengers on board shoved him off the train. This infuriated visitors on the platform. Two sides quickly engaged into a scuffle. One visitor tossed bottled water into the train.
The YouTube user who uploaded the footage has written in the description, “Super-low-class groups. Neither was queuing. Like refugees.” The user said it was taken at Shenmu station.
According to Ming Pao (a newspaper in Hong Kong), the two tourist groups come respectively from Shanxi province in central China and Fujian Province, which sits right across the straits from Taiwan. One male tourist from Shanxi was sent to hospital after his head swelled from the scuffle. However, the injury was minor. He has returned to the tourist group. Another male tourist also from Shanxi had the top knuckle of his right little finger bitten off. The Taiwanese tour guide who led the tourist group from Fujian sustained minor brain concussion from being hit by the water bottle. Both of them have been hospitalized.
It is said that the average number of visitors to Alishan is 3,000 per day. However, on the day when the scuffle took place, over 10,000 went there. The train comes every half hour. Because of the surge in traffic volume, the wait time was prolonged.
The incident has triggered some Taiwanese netizens’ outbreak of abhorrence towards mainlanders, which soon came in for counterattacks by mainland Chinese.
Comments from YouTube:
Mainlanders are exactly like this. Only a small number of people queue.1, At the airport. When I was waiting for boarding at the Hong Kong airport, Cathay Airlines, as always, noted down your number for you when your are in line. At that time, I was in line with our French clients. When it was our turn to board, three 426s (note: 426 is the epithet coined by Taiwanese for mainland Chinese, as it sounds similar to “damned mainlanders” in Hokkien dialect spoken by Taiwanese.) who totally have no notion of moral ethics jumped into the line and savagely pushed our clients. Really disgraceful. These people have lost mainlanders’ faces.2. We were in Canton Fair (note: China’s largest trade fair, held biannually in Guangzhou) back then. In the morning, the gate was open for people to come in. Thousands of people were lining up outside. A bunch of 426s climbed over the railings from outside and jumped into the line. We’d been lining for over an hour and were almost there. Those 426s lost mainlanders’ faces in front of foreigners.3. When I was passing through the customs of Macau, there were super many people. Finally we were a dozen people away from our turn, before five damned 426 obasang (note: borrowed from Japanese, meaning “auntie” in a pejorative sense when used in Taiwan) jumped in right ahead of us. We tried to stop them. They even said they knew people ahead and insisted on being together. I asked the gentleman ahead; he said he didn’t know those damed obasang at all. Those 426s brazenly stayed there and didn’t move. I almost exploded!!!!4. I lived in a high-class hotel in Kenting (note: a state-level park in Taiwan) with foreign clients. Usually people would not be dressed poorly in the hotel lobby. Then I see four or five 426s dressed in bathrobes and slippers wandering in the lobby while chatting loudly in their dialect. My clients asked me, “Are Taiwanese normally without taste like this?” Come on!! If you want to lose face, please do that in your own motherland.
President Ma (note: Ma Ying-jeou, incumbent president of Taiwan, is slightly pro-China relative to his predecessor, who sought independence, in policymaking.) just likes this kind of moral standing!! Haha
The parliamentary members who engaged in legislative violence would say this is simply a small piece of cake.
It’s just about “Do in Rome as Romans do.” Taiwan is a f**king place. Men are emotionless. Women are without righteousness. Birds don’t sing. Flowers do not smell good.
Previously foreigners said Chinese are like ants. But who has ever seen ants fighting against one another to jump the line? Even ants know how to line up and observe the order. Chinese are even beneath ants.It’s in a sense a good thing to let them come to Taiwan and kick up such fusses. Before the restriction was lifted, one had to go to China to watch such shows. When they returned to Taiwan and told these stories, some people were in disbelief. Now such shows can be watched right within Taiwan and let Taiwanese who’ve never been to China have an idea of Chinese cultivation. Once the two sides (of the Taiwan Straits) were open to each other, Taiwanese had opportunities to further learn about China and Chinese. Less and less people would support unification. What’s more, this time it was Chinese beating Chinese. We Taiwanese have had fun as onlookers. Just view it as a special show for the New Year. As long as they don’t damage the Alishan Train. Hope netizens can post all similar videos online and entertain everyone.
Lack of independent and just legal system makes everyone think breaking the order is an act unlikely to be punished. They also hate others breaking the order. But when life without an effective order becomes natural, everyone would depend on breaking it to reach their goals.
Insightful Analysis! (I) support you!
How can they be so uncivilized?
Even if they wish to fight, wait until they have democracy similar to a tribal feud. Why do they fight now? Nut-cases.
Unreasonable. It was not Taiwan’s Parliamentary. How can you act like Pan-green peasants? (Note: Similar to the U.S., Taiwan’s political divide is differentiated by two colors: green and blue. The green camp is staunchly pro-independence, whereas the blue camp, mostly consisting of older generations and Nationalist Party members, recognize their Chinese roots and look forward to unification despite a bitter vendetta with the Communists.)
It takes all sorts to make the world. Let’s stop the cross-strait quarrel. You went to the treasure island (referring to Taiwan) to jump onto the train and got exposed, whereas I came to the mainland and got caught engaging extortion. It’s not a thing to be proud of for either side.
The one who took the video, please post it onto mainland-based Youku and show it to them, because they can’t access youtube in the mainland.
Can mainland tourists be a little more civilized?
Sigh. Shame on my country.
It is a matter of the social environment. In the mainland, be it driving, lining up or riding a bus, if you don’t snatch or jostle, you are disadvantaged. Rules are for show. Anyone who obeys the rule is put in an unfavorable situation. Therefore, the people are used to fight or kick up a fuss over anything, as honest people suffer loss, and rule-breakers benefit. Or should I say it’s adverse selection in economics.
I think people in greater China can only be regulated via caning as in Singapore.
No Chinese or dogs allowed inside. (Note: Historical precedents here.)Dogs cannot kick the habit of eating shit.These are useful lessons passed down by ancestors.
Who are your ancestors? You go back home to look it up what was Armed Clashes between Quan and Zhang (漳泉械斗)? (Note: Immigrants from Quanzhou and those from Zhangzhou fought constantly over resources and territories from the 18th to 19th century.) How did you guys drive Hakka to the mountainous area and aboriginals to the highlands? You didn’t even know who your ancestors are and what they did. For what you bark?
Learning from Taiwan’s parliament (Legislative Yuan)? Hehe.
No wonder previous textbooks said mainlanders have to nibble tree barks. It runs out if you don’t scramble for it.
Are these “people from the other side?” Truly ugly Shina people. (Note: Shina, a highly offensive racist term for China)
Taiwanese ≠ ChineseTaiwanese ≠ people of Chinese descentChinese = Shina people = People of Chinese descent
Your ancestors are not mine.My ancestors belong to Pingpu ethnic group.You 5 mao Shina pig (Note: 5 mao, literally 5 dimes, alluding to Internet commentators hired by Chinese Propaganda Department to post pro-Communist comments and skew the public opinion. In 2004, a news article said they get 5 Chinese dimes, or 7 U.S. cents, per post, hence the epithet.)Go back to find your pig mother.
Please speak Pingpu language,Write Pingpu characters,Don’t speak Hokkien.Don’t ever type ChineseDon’t worship Guan Yu, Confucius.Don’t believe in Goddess MazuDon’t worship Chen Yuanguang
Then why do you use computer to access YouTube?Why did you use an English name? Your mother is the cheapest bitch!!!Why do you f**king use a computer? That is an American invention. Why don’t you call Americans dad???
After all, overall living standard (of Chinese) is not high. Not being civilized enough is a fact. (We) can only do about it individually.
If you are capable, drive all Shina people out of Taiwan. I trust you.
5 mao Shina pig, during the time you spent on typing, Shina whores around the world have slept with countless whoremasters! Haha.
It’s terrifying~You are likely to be photographed/videotaped on the sly anytime if you go to Taiwan.
It is a matter of the system. Since there were so many people, the Taiwan Railway should have controlled the number of passengers and sell tickets in accordance with availability of seats. After all, any one who comes is a guest. We have the obligation to manage the quality of tourism.